Paper patched bullets in a revolver cylinder

Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Treated by soaking in a potassium nitrate solution. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. The base of the bullets just doesnt get hot enough to scorch paper or melt plastic yet alone melt. Paper patched bullets, swaged vs cast post by tom ball fri jan 06, 2006 6. No workup, zero leading, and more than half had torn or lopsided patches that i messed up when sizing shot them that way in the name. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. These cartridges consisted of a paper cylinder or cone containing the bullet.

And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. I prefer to use paper patched bullets simply because they are easier to handle. I plan on using the 4570 in competition both mid and long range next year and really want to get my paper patch bullets shooting accurately at distance. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Buffalo arms is closed on the following holidays so that our employees can spend time with their families. Nov 19, 2014 along that line, consider how nicely a heavy 45caliber singlediameter revolver cb could function as a ppcb core for a 45caliber rifle. This lets you adjust the bullet to suit your gun and load, instead of being stuck with whatever. I would like to make a new cylinder for a revolver any info would be appreciated. Jul 11, 20 nolead lead remover this stuff really works. Or, print your order after entering your address, attach your check or money order, and send it by mail. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. Start with a clean bore, chamber a cartridge and shoot. Colt first called this revolver the ranger model, but the designation navy quickly took over after the civil war, revolvers using fixed metallic cartridges came into widespread use.

On that rifle in the book on freund, it does look like a 3. I was curious famous last words if paper patched would survive the transition through a revolver cylinder to forcing cone. But many latterday experts believe that the best paperpatched bullets and the best greasegroove bullets are about as accurate as each other. The norwegian army also used a paper patched bullet in the nagant revolver ammunition. To knurl or groove the bullets, just swing the handle down to bring the embossing wheel against the bullet, and turn the crank two or three turns while pressing with mild pressure on the padded handle. Many people strictly advise against loading a revolvers cylinder directly from a flask because.

Made by the same folks that created wipeout, and carbout, the nolead brushless lead remover really works. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. Youd have to be sure to get the chambers the correct diameter where the bullets seat. Casting, patching and loading their paper patch bullets in the hunting field. But many latterday experts believe that the best paper patched bullets and the best greasegroove bullets are about as accurate as each other. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. Ive got a question regarding revolver cylinder throat size vs bore size. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers. North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best.

The design of the colt revolving rifle was essentially similar to revolvertype pistols, with a rotating cylinder that held five or six rounds in a variety of calibers from. The paper patch bullet is a lot more like regular lead soft the bullet maker stated it will flatten out like a half dollar when it starts to travel into the animal etc. When i slugged the barrel of this revolver and the puma m92 in the same caliber that i now shoot the same size cast bullets in, i was amazed at. Thing to consider also, is that the bullets in similar weight between 9mm and. They dont appear to give much benefit over lubricated lead at revolver velocities. This last pic is of a 100yd five shot group from a 224 cal rifle. I just ordered a of those postell bullets from a company out west. A paper cartridge is one of various types of small arms ammunition used before the advent of the metallic cartridge. Look for your answers in our forum and in our bimonthly publication the fouling shot. In reading about paper patching, writers on the other cb forum have advised do a pound cast and make your boolit. Paper patched bullets a blast from the past sporting shooters. Swaged paper patched bullets are both more precise and easier and faster to make than cast. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference.

Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. Reading the manuel it says to put a patch with the ball. Id be curious what revolver youre trying to make a cylinder for and what metal youre making it from as well. Jan 16, 2015 we go over some basic lead selection tips to ensure you get the best performance for your rifle. Lubrication for black powder guns is an entirely different story. Has anyone attempted to made revolver cylinders the. Other than an undersized bullet in a revolver cylinder or barrel i think gas blow by is most likely a myth. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. Buffalo hunters used this type of bullet to hunt millions of buffalos. So the paper patched bullet had something of a reputation for greater accuracy. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. Total production numbers of the colt 1851 navy revolver were exceeded only by the colt pocket models in concurrent development, and numbered some 215,000 domestic units and about 42,000 produced in the colt london armory. The revolvers cylinder simply had a small hole drilled at the rear of each chamber. Black powder paper cartridge for muzzle loading pistols buffalo.

How to make an automatic paper revolver that shoots 6. The cba is a international organization of shooters who enjoy casting and shooting lead alloy bullets for competition, hunting, experimenting, and casual shooting. Learn how to make an automatic paper revolver that shoots 6 bullets using a trigger. What andy said sure makes sense and it makes my head hurt. Feb 12, 2017 learn how to make an automatic paper revolver that shoots 6 bullets using a trigger. No one asked about machining the cylinder to make them fit. Here it changes the lubed bullet base was inserted into the barrel lubed paper and all effectively a paper patched bullet to the depth of the lube and flat side of the bullet. So again on the well informed decision principle someone from the nssa needs to contact the proper authorities in the bpcr competitions and inquire if. At approximately the same time that the needlefire system was developed, a pinfire method was also developed. A lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. Paper patched bullets, swaged vs cast shiloh rifle forums.

Shooting accessories for the beginning black powder revolver shooter. Would paper patching reduce leading in s rifled barrel. The use of a paper cartridge was a change from the earlier method of charging a firearm. Years ago i did some of that paper patching for a 3006 spfld according to the harris developments. There is one fellow who shoots yds with his black powser 45 cal rifle and puts them all in the the black. Paper patch bullets were once the most popular type of bullets in the 1800s. How to make an automatic paper revolver that shoots 6 bullets. Nei lee rcbs saeco and lyman ideal, are companies im familiar with to whatever degree. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. From what im reading if the ball does not fit tight when loaded it may slip down the barrel and off the powder creating a bad situation. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with an odd caliber barrel. Hello, so far ive just shot lubed bullets throught my mk iv.

I have a 3 groove bullet that i would be using this on. This is why the pritchett style and many cs bullets had no grease grooves. The design of the colt revolving rifle was essentially similar to revolver type pistols, with a rotating cylinder that held five or six rounds in a variety of calibers from. Working with lubricated bullets is messy in my experience. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. In a revolver with a cylinder gap, a fresh dose of oxygen is found as the burning powder column passes through. New years day, memorial day, independence day, labor day, thanksgiving and the day after, christmas eve open until 12.

This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare. July 11th, 20 nolead lead remover this stuff really works. Grease groove bullets have been the most accurate type so far. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. Read more on how to make and load paper patched bullets and. Paper patched bullets, swaged vs cast post by tom ball. I am planning to attempt paper patching the lee 7mm soup can bullet. So, i thought i would give a quick explanation on the concept and then show my process. Be aware that you will have to do a lot of shooting before any bullet making equipment pays for itself. If you dont get blow by with paper patched bullets with relatively heavy charges of smokeless power remember the only sealing substance is relatively weak and flimsy paper i dont think the gas is going to cut through the surface of a cast lead bullet. Paper patched bullets were especially popular in europe, and was used in, for example, the british martinihenry rifle and mausers infanteriegewehr mod. Im wondering what the benefit of paper patching is.

To make a long story short most of what ive gleaned from various sources mostly from reading newsgroups says that the cylinder throat exit side diameter should be at least 5 tenths. Never tried breech seating chase patches in the ballard because the throat is not tapered. Has anyone attempted to made revolver cylinders thread starter swampdoctor. May 17, 2016 myself, i prefer paper patched bullets for three reasons. Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paperpatching. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet. Presumably, this is because, somehow, paper patched bullets pose some sort of fire hazard. When you have a clean rag and time to wipe your hands between shots they work fine. Some cartridges, such as those for percussion revolvers, used nitrated paper. May 28, 2011 there use to be a how to on making a revolver cylinder i think it was a video.

Im aware that many molds are available to cast bullets for paper patching. Its simple enough to grease the long bearing surfaces and oil the pivot points on a smokeless cartridge gun. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks with little or no personal experience with ppbs. What causes leading in revolvers alaska outdoors forums. It has been my experience, however, that most of the cussin has been from folks. A simpler answer to the question is simply no, you cant fire 9mm luger in a. The bullet has no contact with the barrel which means no leading problems. Ive shot chase patches in my muzzle loaders and my 4050 ballard. New years day, memorial day, independence day, labor day, thanksgiving and the day after, christmas eve open. If you are an active rimfire shooter, or if you shoot cast lead bullets in centerfire rifles and pistols, you should try this product. So again on the well informed decision principle someone from the nssa needs to contact the proper authorities in the bpcr competitions and inquire if paper patched bullets do or dont present a fire risk. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder. I also made a patching jig so that the paper on the bullets were all the same. Gunstore operators told me that about 30 to 40% of the guns they sell for personal defense are revolvers, and the vast majority.

Now, i would like to try paper patched bullets in my 7tcu but the gun has some problems with the lockup mechanism ill need to fix before i mess with it again. Lubrication for black powder guns business and bullets. These are double wrap smooth sided paper patch bullets of either pure lead or 16 1 lead tin alloy. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Those who did use paper patching at the time tended to be match shooters or buffalo hunters who built their own ammunition. Along that line, consider how nicely a heavy 45caliber singlediameter revolver. The paper i used was plain old letter writing paper. What i always heard from the benchrest shooters here we had a huge benchers scene, now totally gone was kroil worked well on just about all fouling, but it took a lot longer to shoot out than normal bore cleaners. Oct 29, 2011 44 caliber kentucky pistol, patch or no patch.

Id cut a large batch of patches in front of the tv. We go over some basic lead selection tips to ensure you get the best performance for your rifle. The bullets you have made can now be paper patched, or placed on the rollers of the corbin hct2 knurling tool, or the hct3 grooving tool. I could be wrong and have been before, but 22lrs are softer bullets and probably lower temps and they st. Chase patches have been more accurate than wrapped paper patched bullets for me. Your alloy selection is a very important part of accuracy when you paper patch. Jul 02, 2009 is paper patching a fair replacement for lube in a black powder rifle for conicals. Actually cardboard wads and even paper patched bullets are used frequently in rifles with no signs of any scorching to the paper. Moon clips dont make any difference if the cylinder isnt specially machined. Here are the benefits of shooting paper patched bullets in your inline. The model 1855, which was the most widely produced revolving rifle, was available in. Followed by the same questions about how the paper survives in the barrel.